tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31659752.post2362467896397573474..comments2023-06-10T01:50:16.788-07:00Comments on More Than Fine: The Objectivist Implications of RatatouilleUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31659752.post-68507992406138874112008-01-02T22:13:00.000-08:002008-01-02T22:13:00.000-08:00Hi there,Just stumbled on this looking for comment...Hi there,<BR/><BR/>Just stumbled on this looking for commentary on the objectivism in 'Bioshock' - I'm actually in the midst of reading 'Atlas Shrugged', and it keeps reminding me of 'The Incredibles'. I loved both 'The Incredibles' and 'Ratatouille', and I think your comments on both of them are quite interesting.<BR/><BR/>However, I'm not sure I completely agree with your interpretation of 'Ratatouille' as a refutation of 'The Incredibles'. It seems more like a caveat. Both movies rail against a society that rewards mediocrity and squelches the exceptional - whether it be superpowers or culinary skill. But it seems to me that 'Rataouille' adds the idea that the exceptional, whatever it's origin, will make itself known. The cream will always rise to the top, if you will.<BR/><BR/>You'll note at the end of the film that they clarify that "Anyone can cook" does not mean everyone has innate talent for it, but that a cook can come from anyone. If you look at 'Atlas Shrugged', you'll notice that all the business tycoons start off in the anonymous working class, but their ability causes them to quickly rise. The steel tycoon started off in an iron mine, the railroad executive started off at the ticketing counter, etc. This is in contrast to people who start off at the top - the superpowered Incredibles, for example.<BR/><BR/>So, in short, it seems to me that, while 'The Incredibles' is saying that talent should not be hidden to make other people feel better, 'Ratatouille' is saying that that talent can come from anywhere.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03350561874642757641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31659752.post-26678612379608338762007-12-20T20:48:00.000-08:002007-12-20T20:48:00.000-08:00hey! nice blog!i wanna comment on the difference y...hey! nice blog!<BR/><BR/>i wanna comment on the difference you've found between Incredibles and Ratatouille. <BR/><BR/>I think that both have the same message: There are some of us who have talents, inherently not trainable --i.e. genuises in one way or another. It is society that stops them from exercising their abilities -- in one movie, the government/society at large; in the other, its pre-conceived notions/heritage of who can cook. <BR/><BR/>In Ratatouille, remy can cook, but sadly he's a rat, which means he's excluded from the club of chefs. In incredibles, incredible can save lives, but is precluded from doing so. <BR/><BR/>in ratatouille, there seems to be a populist message. But apart from the lipservice to 'hardwork', its remy's genius that enables him to rise above his 'rat'ness. Note, his human partner realizes that he can't cook (no matter how hard he tries!) and instead focuses on his comparative advantage: management. <BR/><BR/>Societies capitulation to the idea of a rat chef comes when the food critic falls in love with the rat. Ultimately, the movie is still elitist, but as the critic says, talent/genius can come from anywhere. So society must be open and flexible to accept new talent. <BR/><BR/>there seems to be an arrogance with which mr incredible treats the boy side kick. indeed, one of the themes i got from that movie is exactly the same as in ratatouille -- Mr incredible realizes that talent/ability can come from everywhere/anywhere, and that he 'shouldn't work alone'. Hence, in an emotional scene before the last fight scene, he acquiesces to his wife that they should fight together, as a family.gbdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011266801179689224noreply@blogger.com